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"PlayStation 3 in Europe will play fewer old games"

If you have pre-ordered in error this should be a good enough reason to cancel, seeing as you're now getting something worse than was originally advertised. Isn't this sort of thing against the law?


Blogger Saphion said...
Only one word needs to be said here:

Blogger Dr. A. said...
Notice that Alex Kwiatowski's comments are appalling, Sony-arse-licking PR speak. Then search for the company he works for, Vertical Market Technologies, and notice that it doesn't seem to exist.
Blogger Pyrii said...
Clever logic that sony.

"We'll not only make them pay 150% of what everyone else is paying, but we'll give them a crapper product too."

I love how that article tries to sugar coat that fact completely.
Blogger bilal said...
The PS3's graphics and sound capabilities are much improved over the PS2.


Rather than concentrate on PS2 backwards compatibility... company resources will be increasingly focused on developing new games... for PS3

so basically they won't be updating the ps2 emulator to play Go-Go Train-Train II'?

i'm sick of the next gen. my fave 360 game is street fighter ffs.

*breaks out the megadrive*
Blogger SonicFanatic said...
"Sony is managing expectations by saying now that the new console will play fewer of the old games, and that's a good thing," said analyst Alex Kwiatowski at British market research group Vertical Market Technologies.

Yes, rendering most of a PS2 cult gamer's collection useless is a really enticing way to sell the PS3 to its fanboys, these being the only people daft enough to pay such a high price tag. Sony's marketers must be following the same line of thinking as the development team on Sonic The Hedgehog.
Blogger lenny said...
This is the best thing I've ever heard.
Blogger aporkalypse said...
It isn't even funny any more. Sony have had a collective stroke and are just laying in a hospital bed talking bollocks because their brain is broke.
Blogger Dr Hamhock MD said...
..... I come from stoke, and it aint no joke.

I'll just finish you poem for you.
Blogger ThwartedEfforts said...
We need Matt A to tell us just how great this news is!
Blogger ScSiDaN said...
so sony is going to charge more in europe for a ps3 that has less backwards compatibility and then labels it as a “good thing”. good insult to european intelligence, sony.
Blogger PhotoBoy said...
So let's see what the selling points for the Euro PS3 are:

*More expensive
*Has the 360's launch line up
*No killer apps
*BC is shit
*No rumble
*SIXAXIS is horrid
*Blu-ray slower than 360's DVD at loading

So PS3 owners = fuckwits then?
Blogger Mute said...
I missed the time when UK:R made me laugh and didn't just display hardware sales statistics.
Blogger Cmdr_Zorg said...
Mute, this is a TIME OF WAR. Flippancy and horseplay will resume on March 29, once the evil menace has been forced to leave Europe and retreat back to the East.

In the mean time, please do your bit by collecting negative news items and statistics and emailing them in to the information officer.
Blogger aporkalypse said...
Vertical Market Technologies does NOT exist according to Companies House. Oh Sony.
Blogger Furq said...
Phil Harrison on backwards compatibility...

"[The PS3 will have] almost perfect backwards compatibility. There will be some exceptions, but we believe those will be even less than we saw from PSOne to PS2.

"Backwards compatibility, as you know from PlayStation One and PlayStation 2, is a core value of what we believe we should offer. And access to the library of content people have created, bought for themselves, and accumulated over the years is necessary to create a format. PlayStation is a format meaning that it transcends many devices -- PSOne, PS2, and now PS3.

"If the developer wrote the game according to our technical requirements checklist, we will have what we believe will be almost perfect backwards compatibility. There will be some exceptions, there always are, but we believe those will be very few and far between. Even less so than we saw from PSOne to PS2."

Phil Harrison on Microsoft's difficulties with Xbox 360 backward compatibility

"I don't believe that was backwards compatibility."

Blogger JetsamParadise said...
You know what's also funny...

Sony PS3 SIXAXIS Controller: £35
Sony PS2: £50

F*****g hilarious!

And, apparently, there's a third-party PS2 controller commercially available that gives all the features of the SIXAXIS controller WITH rumble features for around £15. This is of course after Sony stated firstly that the SIXAXIS controller technology couldn’t work with a rumble device and secondly that it would make the controller too expensive.

*clap* *clap*
Blogger Saphion said...
I repeat:

Blogger Eighthours said...
So, Vertical Marketing Technologies don't exist.

The question is: Did Reuters actually interview somebody to get this quote or was it "attributed" to this person by Sony themselves?

Not that Sony would ever do such a thing, of course...
Blogger Mark said...
Right. That's it.

Up to now, I've actually still wanted a PS3, and thought all this Sony bashing was a bit over-the-top, but now they can completely fuck right off. I'm not even buying one of their tellies any more.

What's a good telly brand apart from Sony? Not LG, cos I'm not poor.
Blogger Ian Charles said...
Mark, i heard Samsung a good brand.

Fuck you Sony. Making us pay more and now we get less. Ill stick to my 360 and Wii thanks.
Blogger Mark said...
Good. Samsung are my new best telly friends.
Blogger Bas said...
I was only interested in getting a PS3 for free with a cellphone plan, but not even that now. I hope the PS3 will fail in Europe even more now.

Yeah, go with Samsung. I love my Samsung LCD, it's really high quality.
Blogger HundredHander said...
If you google him it looks like he used to work for Ovum but doesn't anymore...

Maybe a brand new company that will do anything for money?

Or another 'viral' shell firm of the sort the tobacco and oil firms love so much?

xczxq = Alex Kwiatkowski's alias.
Blogger nodesofyesod said...
Sharp Aquos if you want an LCD HD TV. They make the screens that go in every other fucker's telly anyway, so they generally know what they're about.
Blogger shonky said...
It's all so literal around here these days.
Blogger primaleyes said...
Why are people being so anti-Japan in some of the comments?

The only Western console I've ever loved is the Xbox. Before that, Japanese consoles were always far superior to the embarassing Western efforts we got offered.

Sony do their own thing. They don't seem Japanese, Western, or even Alien. I think they are fuelled by arrogance and ego.

Have they been a negative force for the industry? YES!

A few nice games over the years for their machines doesn't mean anything. The games would have probably appeared for other consoles anyway.

Nintendo and Sega must wonder every day how Sony managed to brainwash the world into liking the predominantly boring lifeless games Sony stand for.

It amazes me, but at least Sony's evil powers seem to be fading.
Blogger Bill Laswell said...
Actually Sharp only make the picture tubes for the other CRT tellys.
Zorg seems quite besotted with the PS3. You guys are getting way better launch titles; F1 is massive.
Any backwards compatability issues have been dealt with quite swiflt here in NA and in Japan and I see no reason to doubt why Sony won't be on the ball for the European PS3 either.
Right around your launch the PS3 will be getting 1080p/24 support, eliminating judder found on all other HD players outside the Elite Pioneer and the XA2, which is problematic anyway.
Blu-ray loads in 10 seconds for movies. Three times faster than any other HD player on the market.
Massive list of Blu-ray only exclusives, PS3/2/1 games, DVD, SACD, HDMI 1.3, 1080p/24, DTS-MA decoding hopefully in the near future, Linux support; yeah this thing sure is a ripoff.
Blogger SMEGHaMMeR said...
Well Mark, being an employee of that shithouse that serves the severely mentally disabled, which most uk-ites know as "currys", i feel i have the authority to recommend the same tellies that i usually recommend to people who dont annoy me as much when they come in to buy one.

Panasonic vieras, those Sharp aquos are alright, the best tv in the sharp that makes me go "wow" everyday, is a pioneer, fucking amazing quality on their tv's. Avoid sony like the plague anyway, they still make things out of wood. Also all Samsung have going for em is they basically stick other peoples screens in a black surround, other than that, they are reet shit.
Blogger Saphion said...
Bill Laswell wins the "I've Completely Missed The Point of UK:R, And Indeed The Games Industry Also" Award.
Blogger Baphomet said...
Only 10 seconds to load a movie you say Bill Laswell?

Well I'm sold.
Dr. A, Vertical Market Technologies appears to be a department of Datamonitor, so it *might* not be evil corporate lies... just evil corporate brown-nosing.

PR is easy anyway...
"The PS3 glass is half full, or maybe half empty, so Sony are just halving the size of the glass to save some production costs".

Sony, feel free to quote me.
Blogger lenny said...
Someone tell Canon to make SED TVs
Who's gives a fuck about wanky old PS2 games anyway. What twat spazzes £425 on a console then plays old shit action? A proper cunt - that's who.
Blogger funnelbc said...
Inspired by Saphion's golden comment, I made Bill his award statue. Here ya go Bill!
Blogger doublenegative said...
This has gone beyond the point of arguing about hardware specs, launch line ups, killer aps or anything else other than the fact that Sony is feeding you ,the consumer, shit and expecting you to be happy about eating it.

Just take a scroll back through the last few months of viral ad attempts and company execs telling bare faced porkies. And _still_ people defend Sony?

Don't you understand? If you buy this system, you are sending the message that a company can fail to deliver on it's promises, lie about ever making the promises and then you'll STILL buy their product, safe in the knowledge that the true believers will rally to the cause.

It's worse than religion ffs.
Blogger Saphion said...
funnelbc, you are clearly an
unappreciated genius. Though hopefully not the kind that goes a bit mad and chops off his own ear as a misguided expression of love.

The urine is an excellent touch.
Blogger ThwartedEfforts said...
Does the PS3 actually allow you to watch movies in 10 seconds? It would make Dune less of a slog.
Blogger nodesofyesod said...
Bill Laswell - 6 sentences - all cunt.

How can Americans miss the point of UK:R with such... arrogance.
Blogger phorenzik said...
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Samsung MADE the screens for most of the LCD TVs (Including Sony). I can't be arsed to research my info enough to argue though.

Bill Laswell:
I thought Philips were pretty much the only company who made CRT panels for everyone else to use. Not Sharp.
Blogger Fried Lizard said...
"Any backwards compatability issues have been dealt with quite swiflt here in NA and in Japan and I see no reason to doubt why Sony won't be on the ball for the European PS3 either."

They won't be on the ball because THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUCKING HARDWARE INSIDE, you cunt. For fuck's sake, at keast read the post before responding with your blinkered drivel.
Blogger Mentski said...
"Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Samsung MADE the screens for most of the LCD TVs (Including Sony). I can't be arsed to research my info enough to argue though."

Yep, you're utterly correct. Smeg is talking out of the proverbial. Samsung are among the pioneers of new LCD tech, and have a partnership with Sony regarding LCD patents, and co-own a factory in Korea that supplies every company and it's mum with LCD panels.

(which I'm sure will provide Sony with enough money to keep afloat when they realise what a mistake they made with the PS3, or something... More's the pity)

Obligatory Wikicrap link:

...So er, yeah. Buy a Samsung TV, the panels are the same as the Sony models, and the'll be making even less money!
Blogger phorenzik said...
Cheers Mentski, It's not like Curry's employees to be wrong about anything tech related, lol
Blogger SMEGHaMMeR said...
Ah u got me the end of the day they aren't strictly samsung screens are they though...? Plus i was only pointing out what looks good and what looks shit. We've got a few sonys and samsungs in the shop and they really do look fucking awful. Although i have seen a Sony bravia w series which looked awesome on paper, but is prolly shit and you shouldn't buy it anyway. The S and V series are in the shop, they look like game gear quality tbh. You could say "well, they're obviously fucking ace then", but i don't mean it like that and you know it.

I will also admit that i actually know shit about tv's really, but i'm a fucking fantastic armchair critic, and i know what looks good and what doesn't :P I mostly hang around the pc/laptop section, i can hold my own there =]
Blogger phorenzik said...
YES. They ARE strictly Samsung screens. They manufacture their own panels for their own TVs. They also manufacture panels for loads of other companies too. A Sony screen is basically a Samsung TV. Sony just put their Bravia chips in to tweak the panel a bit. The reason the Samsungs look shit in your shop is probably because you have them running an RF feed that is split between about 25 TVs.
Blogger nodesofyesod said...
To change the subject... Anyone remember all that bollocks about the Cell being used in every application known to man? I recall Sony getting plenty of press about the Cell curing cancer or some such. Anyway, a Guardian tech blog had an interesting comment following some similar Sony verbal liespeak.


"Sony explains:

"When we first offered the PS2, there were no semiconductor companies that were able to make chips for the machine, so we did it ourselves. But now, there are companies that specialise in chip production," Nakagawa said. "They are aggressively investing in cutting-edge technology. Our basic understanding is that we probably won't need to do everything by ourselves for next-generation chips."

Well, sort of. The first 90nm chips were made by IBM. Also, according to the hype behind the Cell, it was going to be used in every sort of electronics device from TV sets to supercomputers, so having a high-volume Cell production line would be a license to print money.

I guess that idea has been put to sleep for a while, if not forever."


I presume this is just another thing that SOny hope we have all forgotten about.
Blogger SMEGHaMMeR said...
Right u argumentative little tosspot, u fucking want it you got it. Where the fuck does it say that samsung make the screens on their own, with no-one elses involvement, cos i dont see it mate. Back it up with evidence dickhead. And 2, yeah the RF is split between 25 tv's but that doesn't stop the decent tv's looking decent and the shit looking shit. Samsung and Sony Tv's are fucking wank. Bottom line. Now fuck off.
Blogger phorenzik said...
I refuse to argue my point any further. If you are that bothered, and think that I'm wrong, then you should research it.

Blogger Emp said...
Alex Kwiatowski?

50 quid for a ps2? Even though I never owned one and sort of vowed never to get one, for that money i can play wipeout fusion again. Cheaper than a ps3 anyway.
Blogger jawa said...
You guys should take your tv screen bitch fight to the next level by playing each other at Virtual Fighter 5 on the PS3
Blogger RoboSel said...
What's VirtuaL Fighter 5?
Blogger Bill Laswell said...
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Blogger Bill Laswell said...
Cunt this, cunt that. Such big boys. I'll bet you cross the road without telling mummy now don't you.
Should have listened to Charlie.
Cheers for the statue, looks like something from an old Sinclair screenshot.

10 seconds? Yes Baphomet. From a powered off position the PS3 will load a Blu-ray movie in 10 seconds.

Smeg - you've listed some good tellys. The Pioneer Elite's are amazing for high def, as are any Sharp Aquos. Sony's Bravia and SXRD sets are equally as impressive and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend one to anyone. The 46" and 52" Bravia or 60" and 70" SXRD are brilliant.

I'll be waiting a little longer before upgrading though as I want to wait until the newer Sony and Sharp LCD's are out that support 120 Hz refresh rate and 10 bit deep colour. SHould be sometime later this year.

I'm also waiting for the new Denon receivers to get DTS-MA decoding, as it doesn't look like it's forthcoming for the PS3 anytime soon.
Samsung should also have HDMI 1.3 compliant LCD's out later this year and no doubt they'll be phenominal as well. I don't think you're looking at a properly set up telly if you think the Bravia sets look like turd. They're full 1080p sets. Plug in a PS3 and play Ridge Racer 7 at full 1080p 60 frames per second and see how quickly your opinion changes.

nodesofyesod I'm sorry you feel that way, but obviosuly you just feel like a bit of a plonker for not knowing anything about HDTV sets. There are several manufacturers of LCD panels.

jawa - you can only play 40 people online at the same time with the PS3. Who do you battle? =D
Blogger Saphion said...
Blah blah blah yawn.

Movies have loading times now? (Do I care?)
Blogger SMEGHaMMeR said...
Cheers Bill, that's some fairly constructive shit you got going on there. I must say i took another look at the sony's today, and they are growing on me a bit. I wouldn't go as far as saying they're amazing, but they can hold their own. I spose i did fail to mention that we don't have a HD feed that runs on all of the tellies, just like 4 lg's at the back (which look fucking amazing btw), so basically if u stick a HD feed or play a HD game on any half decent LCD, ye, it's gonna look pretty fucking good.

I also don't like the word cunt, you are what u eat tbh mate.
Blogger nodesofyesod said...
Yes Bill Laswell, 'obviosuly' I feel like a 'phenominal' plonker.
Blogger Bill Laswell said...
Of course you do; only plonkers make fun of other people's spelling and grammar on a message board/comment area.
Blogger CuntyMcCuntCunt said...
Only cunts are called Bill Laswell. Swings and roundabouts, innit.
Blogger nodesofyesod said...
I'll just go back to my original reason for my accusation of your possessing the correct and credible cunt credentials - that being your missing the point of this site.
If you expect anything less than abuse, enjoyably petty arguments and other such uproarious bollocks then I think you have the wrong site, or as I put forward previously - you are a cunt.
Can't you just call me a cunt and be done with the arguing - I'd have been amused by that. 'Plonker' just makes everyone here fucking cringe.
Blogger jawa said...
Blogger Bill Laswell said...
Sorry - I watch too many OFAH reruns.

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