SONY PR MAN COMMENTS:

"This week in Japan, the Playstation brand has outsold all of its competitors put together by a factor of 3 to 1"

Why's the PSP selling so well? Am I missing something?

They just released the PSP-3000, and not enough people have heard about how it mucks up the graphics of older games.

It's just a blip. The PSP is anywhere close to its rival in terms of dominance or installed user base, no matter how much Sony fanboys try to spin in by ignoring the sales figures from the last 3 or so years...

The DS is hugely down in sales, as is Wii. Despite the anti-Sony spin this is no more a bad week for the PS3 as it is for anyone else...


Hell, the only surprise here is that 360 is still beating PS3 AND PS2.

Anon: Neither are 'hugely' down in sales, and they're both still consistently (that doesn't apply to this brief PSP surge) dominating. 360 is because of Vesperia.

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The Sony CEO must be on drugs. Apparently he's under the impression that his over priced door stop is selling more than expected. I've copied this from qjnet...

"Sony CEO Jack Tretton is quite ecstatic with the way their Cell powered beast is selling this year. Speaking in an interview with Reuters, Tretton reveals that the PS3 is actually selling faster than they previously expected it would.

They projected that the PS3 would be able to sell 10 million units by March of next year. (Just so you know, March of next year = end of fiscal year 2008).

Tretton didn't reveal the specific figure of how many PS3 units they've already sold to date - much less which firm's sales data he's keeping track of - however, he seems confident that they'll hit their 10-million mark by March '09, no matter what happens.

We are in good shape for that number worldwide. We are tracking at 100 percent up over last year ... about 30 percent ahead of where we should be. So sales could slow down and we will still hit our number."

What!? Sales could slow down? If they slowed down any more they'd, er, well not sell as many.

The DS is down because they've just announced the DSi, surely?

When that comes out, and every single Japanese person sets off on their mission to buy 6 of them each over the next 3 years, it will be back on top of the hardware chart, mark my words!

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Finally, the Japanese are even realising the PS3 is a piece of shit, and probably picking up some 360's so that they actually have some games to play.

The PSP's so popular for the same reason which made the PS and PS2 fly - piracy!

the declining sales figures for the PS3 is like watching the FTSE drop....both make me laugh like fuck...both things played by idiots.

If piled on top of each other, the pile would be taller as a house, because one ps3 is nearly as tall as a house alone.

I'd like to think the reason for strong PSP sales are due to another PSP- Phantasy Star Portable.

I will keep knocking a celebratory one out every Friday until the PS3 is finally put out of its misery.

Sony need to hire an electronics genius like Clive Sinclair, he's the only god of computing that can save the sinking sh!thole which the PS3 is.

Time to quote Churchill ...

"We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and the oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender. "

now where's my Sega Vest....

Do we have to go to France?

But But But just wait until little big pl..... hahahhah /sarcasm.

I hear Hideo Kojima is working on a game that's going to really help shift PS3. It launches in June of 2008. It's called Metal Gear Solid 4. Just you wait. Starting from June 2008 PS3 sales will ROCKET.

I'm not entirely clear what Japanese people are buying Xbox 360s for, though. It's not exactly rolling in must-have exclusives itself. Almost everything worth having is cross-platform (this statement encompasses Gears of War 2).

The image verification for my previous post was "spitsms", which was sufficiently good to circumvent this new "no writing the image verification letters in the post with a humorous suggestion as to their meaning" thing that's suddenly appeared and spoiled the third most fun thing there is to do on the internet.

Anyway. spitsms. Clearly a way of gobbing on people through your mobile.

Yeah that's the idea - just do a new post with the previous post's verification word. Works for me, too.

The PS3 is doing just fine. You people need to wake up and get out of the 90s. The Dreamcast is dead. Sega are dead (bar OutRun 2006) and Sonic - as a mascot and a game character - is dead.

DEAD.
DEAD.
DEAD.

http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/10/26/analysis-ps3-selling-more-games-than-xbox-360-with-smaller-install-base/

Key word: smaller install base.
And it'll keep like that, hoss.

Check this: http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS3&publisher=&sort=Total

Now check this: http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=X360&publisher=&sort=Total

100 > 36

PS3 is an effing JOKE!

Key word: smaller install base.
And it'll keep like that, hoss.

Check this: http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS3&publisher=&sort=Total

Now check this: http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=X360&publisher=&sort=Total

100 > 36

PS3 is an effing JOKE!

My take on the situation:

There are less decent games available on PS3, so if a 3rd party publisher does produce something reasonable, they are going to sell more copies than on a platform like the 360 where there is a wider choice.

Anyway, all will fall before the mighty Dreamcast 2 - mwahahahahaha!!!1!!

'There are less decent games available on PS3'

No there isn't. Look at the 360 - most of it's decent games are multiplatform anyway (bar GoW2 and whatever bilge rare is pumping out next). As for Too Human? Don't make me laugh. Halo? Meh. Fable 2? Looks alright I suppose. Nothing to get too excited about.

The future for PS3 exclusives is rosey, with LittleBigPlanet alone making the PS3 worthy of purchasing (and yes, I have played it). Add to that Home (when it comes), a great selection of PSN titles (fLower looks great), a solid/excellent 3rd party line-up, and it's all good.

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'Anyway, all will fall before the mighty Dreamcast 2 - mwahahahahaha!!!'

SHouldn't that be - 'Anyway, all will fall before the mighty Dreamcast 2 - hahahahaha! Like THAT'S ever gonna happen?!'

Rather than tonking off sixteen times on a Friday after the PS3 sales update, I could do with a mid week five knuckle shuffle - to pace myself better over seven days. Is there any chance of some mid week figures Zorg? Or are they not released because Sony only sell all 4725 of their consoles on the one day??

I can take LittleBigPlanet, but Home and Flower?! What the FUCK?!?! I thought Wii was the king of worthless non-games.
Gears2, Halo 3 and Fable II beats 90% of Sony's first-party lineup badly (bar whatever Team ICO comes up with and maybe Ratchet and Uncharted), coupled with lower prices and better third-party games (almost every single multiplatform game is technically better on 360).
Pleeease man.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSTKB00310320081029?rpc=401&

Yep. The PS3 is doing real badly....

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@Chaos - Yep - flower looks amazing. Broaden your mind a little bit. There's more to gaming than shooting people, shooting aliens, and slashing at monsters.

'lower prices'? The 360 IS NOT cheaper than the PS3 when you take into account the functionality that the PS3 offers. The 360 doesn't even have a web browser for fucks sake! Sure you can buy an Arcade for £130, but add to that the cost of an HDD, Wifi dongle, controller chargers (all thing that the PS3 comes with built in), and their costs are comparable.

Plus, the PS3 has BluRay.

Xbox 360 = Frankenstein's Console. It's held together by ruddy great staples.

But all of the things you mention are not essential to the playing of games - which is surely the main point of a 'games console'. People buy these things to satisfy their kids, and don't really give a fat one about the rest of it. They just want to shut their kids up from whining for the cheapest price - and the 360 wins that war. Add to that the fact that a title like Gears of War is always going to win out in the battle for the hearts and minds of teenage boys, certainly more than an esoteric title like Flower. Sony need to face the fact that the target audience for a game like that is already playing Wii. Again, with LittleBigPlanet Sony are leaping on bandwagons rather desperately. Just like the ridiculous Sixxaxis fiasco when Sony panicked upon seeing where Nintendo were heading, they've yet again fallen between two stools with a great game but one that doesn't sate their core audience, or realistically attract newcomers who were looking at buying a Wii.
From what I can tell, in working closely with young people in both retail and school environments, is that there is very much a Playstation brand loyalty, which Sony aren't really addressing with much clarity or vigour. They need exclusive games that appeal to their core audiences. They need to bear in mind that the buyers who were wowed by the delights of Wipeout back in 1995 have long since moved to the 360, and get to grips with the Fifa/Need For Speed demographic they're now left with.

'Sony need to face the fact that the target audience for a game like that is already playing Wii'

I totally disagree - what's wrong with a console having a range of games aimed at a range of demographics? Using the PS3 as an example: There's a place for fLower, Resistance, Killzone, LBP, sports titles, Buzz!, Singstar etc etc.

Just because Nintendo has been particularly successful in one area of gaming, doesn't mean MS and Sony shouldn't touch that same area with a barge pole.

On the PS3, I enjoying shooting people in the face as much as the next adolescent-of-mind-30 year old, but I also enjoying having a sing-song with my non-gaming friends. And LBP is the first platform game I've ever got my missus to play with me.

IMHO it's important to have breadth in your software line-up - not just depth. And in this Sony is doing admirably.

'They need exclusive games that appeal to their core audiences' - LBP, Killzone, Resitance 2, Motorstorm 2, Wipeout HD, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, Heavy Rain etc all fill this criteria nicely.

As for 'They just want to shut their kids up from whining for the cheapest price - and the 360 wins that war' - how very depressing.

Shame these peoples kids will be crying some more after they bought it - crying for a Wifi dongle so they can play their friends online; crying for more batteries for their controllers; crying for an HDD to they can download some live arcade games; and crying when their 360 explodes and has to be picked up by the nice man from UPS.

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Oh - and at all you Sega lovin', Sony hating fanboys. May I suggest that you pick up a PSP and a copy of OutRun 2006: Coast to Coast. It's the shizzle. Like having the arcade in your pocket.

oh - and as for 'But all of the things you mention are not essential to the playing of games - which is surely the main point of a 'games console'.

The 'games console' as we knew it is dead. All of the current generation of 'games consoles' are designed to do more than just play games. And I think that's a good thing.

"The 'games console' as we knew it is dead. All of the current generation of 'games consoles' are designed to do more than just play games. And I think that's a good thing."

IN OUR EYES, how is that a good thing??? You're missing the the point and ethos of this site. We're a bunch of wank-happy old-enough-to-know-better juveniles who love the early '90s glory days of 16-bit, 256 colour heaven and we hate Sony for taking it away. We know all about how the world moves on blah blah, we just don't care. If YOU. DON'T. GET. IT, then please feel free to toddle off to Kotaku, or back to Three Speech.

Oh - I 'get it'. I just thought you'd appreciate a bit of contrast/realism on the site, to make you dewy-eyed reminiscing all the more heartwarming.

And, to be fair, it's not Sony's fault the Dreamcast went tits up - that was Sega's doing.

Look at Nintendo - they were on the ropes a little while back but managed to pull the Wii and DS out of the bag. Sega couldn't find their Wii. Or their DS.

How does the old saying go?
'A poor workman always blames his tools'.

or is it:

'A poor console manufacturer always blames Sony'.

'who love the early '90s glory days of 16-bit, 256 colour heaven and we hate Sony for taking it away'

Additionally - you can still be living in 16-bit, 256 colour heaven - buy a Wii and get on the Virtual Console. I was playing Bonk! only the other night alonside a spot of Gunstar Heroes.

Oh - I 'get it'. I just thought you'd appreciate a bit of contrast/realism on the site, to make you dewy-eyed reminiscing all the more heartwarming.

And, to be fair, it's not Sony's fault the Dreamcast went tits up - that was Sega's doing.

Look at Nintendo - they were on the ropes a little while back but managed to pull the Wii and DS out of the bag. Sega couldn't find their Wii. Or their DS.

How does the old saying go?
'A poor workman always blames his tools'.

or is it:

'A poor console manufacturer always blames Sony'.

'who love the early '90s glory days of 16-bit, 256 colour heaven and we hate Sony for taking it away'

Additionally - you can still be living in 16-bit, 256 colour heaven - buy a Wii and get on the Virtual Console. I was playing Bonk! only the other night alonside a spot of Gunstar Heroes.

You do realise we're the only two people left reading this thread,don't you? :)

I'll go with "Fans of Lik Sang always blame Sony"...

Agreed about the Virtual Console stuff, and Gunstar Heroes - now there's a game that pushed the Megadrive hardware.

'You do realise we're the only two people left reading this thread,don't you?'

I think you might be right.

There are only two of you?
Well perhaps we can get the Sony Blowboy to post here regularly. I miss the days of reading tossers getting shot down by the regulars.
And other anonymous - How dare you start agreeing with him.
And me - Why am i typing this, maybe its been too long since my last wank...

Anonymous said:

@Chaos - Yep - flower looks amazing. Broaden your mind a little bit. There's more to gaming than shooting people, shooting aliens, and slashing at monsters.

... You kidding me?! It's the new FantaVision for fuck's sake!!
Blu-ray movies playback, browsing the Internet with a goddamned game controller and a goddamned composite video cable, sales going up from 1.31 million to 2.43 million units over the course of a whole damn year, comfortably sitting at dead last position?
What kind of weak excuses for a godawful performance of an absolutely horrible system with horrible SDKs and half the industry commenting about its crappy server-like hardware that can't paly shit without making a mandatory long-ass install?!
Pleeeeeaaassee maaaan...

I meant to write "play".

'browsing the Internet with a goddamned game controller and a goddamned composite video cable'

I prefer to use an HDMI cable.

Browsing the net with controller, though not ideal, is functional. And if you want to buy a keyboard and mouse, the PS3 supports them.

I'll say it again - fLower looks great. Have you played fLow? Like I said - broaden your mind.

Didn't Sega once make a game that you played only using sound (there were no visuals)? See - even the blue sky boys like to experiment every now and then!

From wikipedia:
'In 1997, WARP developed a game called Real Sound for the Sega Saturn which was later ported to DreamCast in 1999 and renamed Real Sound: Kaze no Regret (Real Sound: Regrets in the Wind, Real Sound: Kaze no Regret?).[5] This game featured no visuals at all and was entirely dependent upon sound.'

And let us not forget REZ - a game to which fLow and no doubt fLower owe a great deal.

It's all well and good being a Sega fanboy, but it helps if you back it up with a little bit of knowledge.

Haha. There's no common sense, logic or even knowledge involved in posting on this site. A bit like being a Christian perhaps... Can't you fucking see that yet? There is only blind hatred of Sony. Next.

Hatred leads to the Dark Side....

(yep - I'm talking about the 360)

I prefer to use an HDMI cable.

Browsing the net with controller, though not ideal, is functional. And if you want to buy a keyboard and mouse, the PS3 supports them.

I'll say it again - fLower looks great. Have you played fLow? Like I said - broaden your mind.

The HDMI cable doesn't come weith the PS3's SKU, neither do the mouse or the keyboard, just like the 360's high-capacity HDD (unless you but a new 60 gig or Elite 120 gig system, both equipped with wither HD-enabled component or HDMI cables, which basically defeats your absolutely laughable failure at a defense).
REZ isn't even supposed to be considered the epitome of on-rails shooters, but it was clearly a skill-based game, not an awful waste of time like "fLower" adn FantaVision.
WARP was full of crap.

Post fixes:
*with *buy *either *and

And please, don't try to expand on the ridiculous PS3's capabilities to run a disabled, half-assed Linux OS that can't run shit with a graphical desktop environment, which is just as pointless to justify buying a 400~500 bucks videogame console as playing movies (which you can also do on the 360, see Netflix and high-quality H.264 codec support) and anything else could be.

Why's the PSP selling so well? Am I missing something?

Capcom's "Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G" is a massive hit in Japan.

'The HDMI cable doesn't come weith the PS3's SKU, neither do the mouse or the keyboard, just like the 360's high-capacity HDD (unless you but a new 60 gig or Elite 120 gig system, both equipped with wither HD-enabled component or HDMI cables, which basically defeats your absolutely laughable failure at a defense).'

If you don;t buy an HDMI cable for the PS3 and you have an HD TV, you are clearly a) skint and/or b) a moron.

I don't think its fair to compare getting a keyboard for the PS3 with getting an HDD for the 360. An HDD is far more integral to the console gaming experience than having to have a keyboard for browsing. Plus, you can get by fine without a keyboard. SIXAXIS is fine (well...is it for me).

Face it - Sega are shit.