Comments on: SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/ Still just about about games Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:19:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mina http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19995 Mina Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:18:51 +0000 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19995 Why it's not for PC??? Why it’s not for PC???

]]> By: Mentski http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19991 Mentski Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:48:54 +0000 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19991 London, you're not the first to pour doubt on my claims by saying "LCD/Controller lag". It was definitely the game. I tested it on a Megadrive on the same LCD TV, and emulated it on a PC through the same TV, using a wired controller I used on my 360. The PC and the 360 were also plugged in via VGA and running at the TV's native resolution to reduce lag; Yes, I was that thorough (read: anal) about this as it annoyed me that much, I even sent an angry letter to Backbone which went unanswered. Neither the PC or MD exhibited the excessive lag the 360 version did. There is a significant gap between pressing the buttons and what you see on the screen, over half a second... When you consider that LCD screen lag on a modern TV is around 80ms - 0.08 of a second - and it's much less than that when plugged in via VGA (as it doesn't have to rescale the image to fit the screen), something is up. You may wonder, if I had other ways to play it, why I even bought the live arcade version. I ask myself the same question. I think I was on an achievement kick at the time, and thought it would be an easy 200 Gamerscore. Instead a game that I can finish in my sleep was a royal pain in the arse. I still only have 175 points in it because I can't bare to go through it again for a speed run when the timing is that off. London, you’re not the first to pour doubt on my claims by saying “LCD/Controller lag”.

It was definitely the game. I tested it on a Megadrive on the same LCD TV, and emulated it on a PC through the same TV, using a wired controller I used on my 360. The PC and the 360 were also plugged in via VGA and running at the TV’s native resolution to reduce lag; Yes, I was that thorough (read: anal) about this as it annoyed me that much, I even sent an angry letter to Backbone which went unanswered.

Neither the PC or MD exhibited the excessive lag the 360 version did. There is a significant gap between pressing the buttons and what you see on the screen, over half a second… When you consider that LCD screen lag on a modern TV is around 80ms – 0.08 of a second – and it’s much less than that when plugged in via VGA (as it doesn’t have to rescale the image to fit the screen), something is up.

You may wonder, if I had other ways to play it, why I even bought the live arcade version.

I ask myself the same question. I think I was on an achievement kick at the time, and thought it would be an easy 200 Gamerscore. Instead a game that I can finish in my sleep was a royal pain in the arse. I still only have 175 points in it because I can’t bare to go through it again for a speed run when the timing is that off.

]]> By: Police Constable London http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19989 Police Constable London Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:27:04 +0000 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19989 I'm a more betterer kind of person than that, I've never bought a single game on XBLA. Wireless controllers have lag. Scaling on some HDTVs causes lag. So perhaps it wasn't the game but the TV. Or perhaps it <i>was</i> the game. I’m a more betterer kind of person than that, I’ve never bought a single game on XBLA.

Wireless controllers have lag. Scaling on some HDTVs causes lag. So perhaps it wasn’t the game but the TV.

Or perhaps it was the game.

]]> By: M. Zorg http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19985 M. Zorg Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:29:05 +0000 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19985 Mentski, you and I are obviously BETTER KINDS OF PEOPLE than most. I couldn't stand playing XBLA Sonic due to the controls being so laggy and slow, yet no one else seemed to notice. And this was back when I was working in an office where people sat around playing games all day as their "main" jobs. Mentski, you and I are obviously BETTER KINDS OF PEOPLE than most. I couldn’t stand playing XBLA Sonic due to the controls being so laggy and slow, yet no one else seemed to notice.

And this was back when I was working in an office where people sat around playing games all day as their “main” jobs.

]]> By: CyberRazorMike http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19976 CyberRazorMike Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:55:25 +0000 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19976 "I’ll straight up admit it; I’m well excited for this, simply because it recalls a time when I wasn’t a mid-twenties, fat, bitter cynic. I was still a bit fat, but at least I wasn’t bitter about it." Snap :( At least now I have no friends to ridicule me for this purchase, which I will buy on all machines if it proves non-shit, just so Sega get the message. I don't like the sound of 'episodes' though. Will it turn into a furrier Corrie? “I’ll straight up admit it; I’m well excited for this, simply because it recalls a time when I wasn’t a mid-twenties, fat, bitter cynic. I was still a bit fat, but at least I wasn’t bitter about it.”

Snap :( At least now I have no friends to ridicule me for this purchase, which I will buy on all machines if it proves non-shit, just so Sega get the message.

I don’t like the sound of ‘episodes’ though. Will it turn into a furrier Corrie?

]]> By: GigerPunk http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19975 GigerPunk Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:51:48 +0000 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19975 I'll admit I'd not really noticed it and put down my woeful performance to the fact I was never particularly good at Sonic and the fact I'm now older and my reactions aren't what they once were...I shall console myself with the fact it's not my fault then ;) I’ll admit I’d not really noticed it and put down my woeful performance to the fact I was never particularly good at Sonic and the fact I’m now older and my reactions aren’t what they once were…I shall console myself with the fact it’s not my fault then ;)

]]> By: mentski http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19972 mentski Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:59:21 +0000 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19972 Zorg, you are one of the first people I've seen since the release of those terribly emulated Sonic games on XBLA to even mention that horrible button lag. At first, I thought I was going mad, I even set up a 360 next to a Megadrive to make sure I was right... searching for any mention of it in Google brings up barely any results. It completely throws you off your game, and is yet another strike against Backbone/Digital Eclipse, who I'd already not been very pleased with for several other games, emulated and "original" (every one of their Capcom "remakes" on XBLA, bar Street Fighter HD is a buggy piece of trash) Zorg, you are one of the first people I’ve seen since the release of those terribly emulated Sonic games on XBLA to even mention that horrible button lag.

At first, I thought I was going mad, I even set up a 360 next to a Megadrive to make sure I was right… searching for any mention of it in Google brings up barely any results.

It completely throws you off your game, and is yet another strike against Backbone/Digital Eclipse, who I’d already not been very pleased with for several other games, emulated and “original” (every one of their Capcom “remakes” on XBLA, bar Street Fighter HD is a buggy piece of trash)

]]> By: Bloomi Bolokov http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19968 Bloomi Bolokov Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:38:57 +0000 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19968 I'll straight up admit it; I'm well excited for this, simply because it recalls a time when I wasn't a mid-twenties, fat, bitter cynic. I was still a bit fat, but at least I wasn't bitter about it. As for being episodic, if it's utter shit, you haven't got a disc that Game/Station will offer 10p for come trade-in. I’ll straight up admit it; I’m well excited for this, simply because it recalls a time when I wasn’t a mid-twenties, fat, bitter cynic. I was still a bit fat, but at least I wasn’t bitter about it.

As for being episodic, if it’s utter shit, you haven’t got a disc that Game/Station will offer 10p for come trade-in.

]]> By: Matt http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19962 Matt Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:12:32 +0000 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19962 They should put NiGHTS in it. That would be fucking ace. They should put NiGHTS in it. That would be fucking ace.

]]> By: Bulk Slash http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19958 Bulk Slash Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:36:31 +0000 http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2010/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-4/#comment-19958 I've found another problem with this game: it's coming out on PS3. Why isn't this being made for the Dreamcast? I’ve found another problem with this game: it’s coming out on PS3. Why isn’t this being made for the Dreamcast?

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